“Making a point to show that a point is not a point
is not as good as making a nonpoint to show
that a point is not a point.”
– Zhuangzi.
is not as good as making a nonpoint to show
that a point is not a point.”
– Zhuangzi.
即使我与若辩矣，若胜我，我不若胜，若果是也，我果非也邪？我胜若，若不吾胜，我果是也，而果非也邪？其或是也，其或非也邪？其俱是也，其俱非也邪？我与若不能相知也。则人固受其黮闇，吾谁使正之？使同乎若者正之？既与若同矣，恶能正之！使同乎我者正之？既同乎我矣，恶能正之！使异乎我与若者正之？既异乎我与若矣，恶能正之！使同乎我与若者正之？既同乎我与若矣，恶能正之！然则我与若与人俱不能相知也，而待彼也邪？
Once you and I have started arguing, if you win and I lose, then are you really right and am I really wrong? If I win and you lose, then am I really right and are you really wrong? Is one of us right and the other one wrong? Or are both of us right and both of us wrong?
If you and I can’t understand one another, then other people will certainly be even more in the dark. Whom shall we get to set us right? Shall we get someone who agrees with you to set us right? But if they already agree with you how can they set us right? Shall we get someone who agrees with me to set us right? But if they already agree with me, how can they set us right? Shall we get someone who disagrees with both of us to set us right? But if they already disagree with both of us, how can they set us right? Shall we get someone who agrees with both of us to set us right? But if they already agree with both of us, how can they set us right?
If you and I and they all can’t understand each other, should we wait for someone else?
From Readings in Classical Chinese Philosophy by Bryan Van Norden and Philip J Ivanhoe.
This famous statue of an old Taoist saint stands at the bottom of the Qingyuan Mountain. It was carved during the Song Dynasty (960-1279)
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